Problems with Leverage ;)

[tko232]

I had my first try at buffing the 232 yesterday.

We had a lot of oxidation around where the mooring cover lays up against the boat. Like a sun line or something.

The oxidation remover is some great stuff it cleaned up all the haze, removed all the light to meduim scratches, cleaned up a little dock rash.

It was also easy to use, once I figured out that you start slow on the buffer and work the speed up as you go.


The polish works great also VERY easy to use, just dont cake it on real thick.

So whats my issue you ask??

The boat looks way to good to put it in the water around here:twisted:

Thats what!!!!

[King High Full Boat]

I had the same problem! I worked on the boat most of the day Friday along with the PWC's. Now I'm a far cry from a detail person but I thought for an 11 yr old boat it was lookin' pretty good. I must have gotten a little pollen in my eye Sat. morning when I dropped it in for the hop!

Oh, and I don't think the vinyl has ever looked better!

I agree the buffer worked great once I figured out how to use it......I couldn't find a twisted buffing pad though and the one I had was shedding the whole time...but seemed to work okay.

Thanks for all the help Leverage.

[Marine Clean]

Thanks guys! You're bringing a tear to my eye....[smilie=trink39]

Today was 222ft. of Fiberglass for me(3 Houseboats). We all worked are azzes off and they all show in the reflection.

Many years and sacrifices to bring you that blue little bottle and tan grit.
I always like the end result and the Maxum looks excellent! :mrgreen: A very nice, clear reflection.

Thanks again guys and let me know if you need anything!

Donnie

[bajafun320]

Thanks guys! You're bringing a tear to my eye....[smilie=trink39]

Today was 222ft. of Fiberglass for me(3 Houseboats). We all worked are azzes off and they all show in the reflection.

Many years and sacrifices to bring you that blue little bottle and tan grit.
I always like the end result and the Maxum looks excellent! :mrgreen: A very nice, clear reflection.

Thanks again guys and let me know if you need anything!

Donnie

What is the stuff you guys are using????????????????? oxidation remover and polishing wax?????????????????

[King High Full Boat]

Using the leverage oxidation remover and polish in the online store.

Donnie,

The haze has started to return to the boat. Mostly to the back of the boat that gets the morning sun but also to other areas of the burgundy. I'm gonna hit it again with the oxidation remover and a coat of wax. I'm sure it will clean it up......any suggestions on what might get the shine to last a little longer? I have always had problems with the burgundy hazing over. Thinking about getting a full boat cover that hangs completely over the boat?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Bruce

[SoonerJake]

What buffer are you guys using? Will the cheap orbital one work? Or does it need to be a variable speed dealio? thx

[King High Full Boat]

I used the buffer Donnie recommended. Tried a small orbital buffer....just didn't do the job. The recommended buffer worked GREAT once I figured out the best way to use it.

[Keytime]

I used the buffer Donnie recommended. Tried a small orbital buffer....just didn't do the job. The recommended buffer worked GREAT once I figured out the best way to use it.

Same here. I'm getting much better at buffing. Start slow, then go up in speed as you buff it smooth. Just did mine and it sparkles. I'd take a pic, but nothing but rain here right now so I'm cleaning the garage as I watch it pour. [smilie=106.gif]

[RP MCMURPHY]

I made it a point this season to ask every professional boat detailer I bumped into about Leverage wax and all of the responses were unfavorable. Doesn't hold-up, goes bad, inconsistent, etc. Most recommend a Carnauba wax. Some laughed when I asked them.

[36Tango]

RP,
did you get picked on alot when you were little?

[BDM]

I made it a point this season to ask every professional boat detailer I bumped into about Leverage wax and all of the responses were unfavorable. Doesn't hold-up, goes bad, inconsistent, etc. Most recommend a Carnauba wax. Some laughed when I asked them.

Well, he said it, so it must be true. :roll:

[SoonerJake]

I made it a point this season to ask every professional boat detailer I bumped into about Leverage wax and all of the responses were unfavorable. Doesn't hold-up, goes bad, inconsistent, etc. Most recommend a Carnauba wax. Some laughed when I asked them.

Have you tried it? If so how were your results?

[PromoProducts-BP]

What buffer did Donnie recommend?

[RP MCMURPHY]

I used the wax. It was all hazy. I shouldn't have to use a buffer to wax a boat. I gave it a shot after reading about here. That's why asked the detailers I knew and met at the bars, playing cards etc. I'm not gonna' lie or sugar coat it. I've tried it and thought it sucked and later asked around. Just my two cents. I am sure there are a bunch of detailers' phone numbers you can call and ask yourself.

[SoonerJake]

I dont need any numbers I've got a bottle. I had really good success with it. Maybe if you would have posted that you tried it and got those results first you would get better responses. Your original post made sound as if you just asked around and were posting second hand opinions imho. The buffer we were talking about was to be used with the oxidation remover. FWIW I just use the wax with some microfiber towels. Very easy on and off. Anyway good luck with whatever you chose to use in the future.

[the bear]

I use it and dont use a buffer, and like the results...

[Marine Clean]

Bruce,

I would use a cover on those sides with the constant sunlight. You can always bring it back, but it will be a yearly battle.

[JMS]

This is my third season using Leverage. I have buffed from the rub rail up with the oxidization remover at the beginning of the last two seasons. The protectant was applied by hand. The boat is a 1997. You be the judge.

[JMS]

Hazy ????

[Marine Clean]

Donnie's recommended Buffer
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=66615

Thanks for the continued use and support guys!!!

Leverage Polish will not spoil or go bad atleast for 7 years to date.

I don't have a distributor at LOTO that supplys to any detailers that I know or have ever talked to. I had one detailer that was having problems, but he was using the same towels to apply leverage that he was using for acetone and thought it was just fine. If someone is talking shit because they don't know what they're doing then I would like to know by PM please RC. I'm always around and I never mind educating, but...

I shouldn't have to go here, but I will. I picked up an additional 37 boats this year, so that brings my total for the year to well over 225. I have 7 years of full-time experience with my own products and I've maybe had 2 issues(gel gone & severe yellowing). I'm on 15 different forums with excellent feedback, but there's always one. If you follow the directions to a T and you're still having problems then you need to go deeper. I can get somewhat of a shine and cover up imperfections using Pledge, but it won't last and the long term effects won't be fun. Also, my definition of Shine and reflection maybe different than some. Bruce's boat is a perfect example of the reflection your boat should have after using my products. The polish alone won't bring back a dull finish and buffing won't even do it sometimes. That's why I put up directions for wetsanding as well.

Low Grade Carnauba waxes have been proven to be the culprit of yellowing and premature oxidation, so anyone that tells you different....True Boat detailers are few and far between. Most come from detailing cars and dabble in boats on the side. Most have no idea on exteriors either or how vinyl ages and weathers. It takes years to understand fiberglass care and the effects of different chemicals. Far as I'm concerned, the only cars I touch are mine. My expertise is boats and boats only. Find a local detailer that specializes in boats only and has been around for at least 5 years. Make sure they also don't specialize in junk! If your boats been sitting under a tree for three years without a cover then I don't want it at my shop. Also, most full-time, professional detailers will only need your boat for a day or two and it's done. Unless you're taking it to someone that also does motor work, electrical, drives and anything else they can make a dime off of. Nothing against those shops, but there's only so much you can focus on and have excellent results on every issue.

Sorry for the ramble guys..Long Monday...

One other thing. I've scheduled for the MWBP Poker run for the past 2 years, but something has always happened at the last minute. So I've had to send Dr. Jeff product instead of me being there to keep yall entertained. ;) Couldn't make the OSS race this year because my sister's wedding conflicted. She would've kicked my azzz. I guess we need to come up there and spend a month edumicating everyone and killing some brain cells.

[Griff]

I've used Leverage with excellent results since Donnie first started selling it and hadn't even gone public yet. I have never had any hazing issues unless it was applied too heavy and not rubbed out enough. If you put too much on, it will leave some hazy streaks. All you have to do is is rub it out using less of the polish.

It is by far the best and easiest to apply product I have ever used.

Donnie, I wouldn't be too concerned about RP's issues....................he has issues that nobody can fix.

[SeaLegs]

Keep up the good work Donnie. I have never used a better or easier product in all they years that I have had boats. This year I was to busy to get around to detailing my boat. I dropped it of at a "professional" who didn't use Leverage and the results ended up far less than what I expected.

[baywatch]

My old resin bucket is 15 years old. I have used Leverage for the past three seasons and couldn't be happier. You be the judge.

[the bear]

OK...Donnie, I have a question, I am thinking of using Leverage on my wifes new car, has anyone used it on a car or would you recomend not too?

[emilsr]

I am NOT a professional detailer, just a guy who has been keeping boats up for the past 30 years....so take this for what it's worth:

You name it, I've probably tried it. Our last 2 boats have been red and they're a bear to keep up. Lately I've gone back to a good quality carnauba wax for the hull and deck, mainly because I can get it locally and it lasts. I have used Leverage though and I'd use it again. It's a good product, and Donnie is a wealth of information. That he chooses to share his knowledge on so many forums and wherever he goes says a lot about his integrity. There are a lot of satisfied customers out there as well. Is Leverage the best? Obviously I'm not qualified to say, but the stuff works.

Here's our last boat after using Leverage polish. This pic was taken several weeks after application.....and after a 10 day trip to the gulf. All I did to prep for the photo was wash all the salt off and dry it.

[DeSimulacra]

Keep up the good work Donnie. I have never used a better or easier product in all they years that I have had boats. This year I was to busy to get around to detailing my boat. I dropped it of at a "professional" who didn't use Leverage and the results ended up far less than what I expected.

NICE BOAT![smilie=trink39]

[Marine Clean]

Quit it guys, I'm getting all emotional. [smilie=trink39]

The pics look great!!
I appreciate everyone taking the time to read my posts, following my direction and proving what a bit of labor will produce. I've spent years on the forums teaching what I know and I'm proud that most have paid attention. To me it's simple compared to what it was 20 years ago. I use to carry 5 different products down to the dock and not even get near the same results that I do with 2 now. And my back/shoulders/arms aren't near as sore either. IMO, my years of testing and research have made my life easier and I hope everyone elses as well. It's amazing what a hobby will turn into.

[Griff]

OK...Donnie, I have a question, I am thinking of using Leverage on my wifes new car, has anyone used it on a car or would you recomend not too?

I used it on my Black 1987 Saleen Mustang. It has the original paint and doesn not have a clear coat. It already had a good glossy finish. The shine on the car is excellent and is as good or better than any other wax I have used. Of course, it is much easier to apply than other waxes.

[ggspot]

love how easy was to use but did not get the results was looking for used oxideremover and wax just my 2cents

[RedBud]

Going to buy the buffer from harbor freight. What about a pad, what kind should I get?

[tko232]

I used the Leverage pads and towels.

They hold up great and dont shed all over the place.

I will use the same one from last year this spring when I do my spring cleaning.

[google_11]

Hazy=not using a buffer or if using towel wax off harder Daniel-san before karate!

Harbor Freight has them on sale quite often but if you have the $$$ Mikita and Milwaukee have some top end buffers.

I was told to find a 7" variable speed buffer and generally working in the 1400-3000 RPM range though mostly around 2000 RPM using a knappy hook-n-loop buffer pad. Considering the price of a HF buffer is $59 (~$40-50 if on sidewalk sale) it does the job. If pro or want the best, go with Makita or Milwaukee.

Now I am off to checkout Leverage. The results and comments on here have me interested in changing from Maguire's

[RedBud]

I just found the polisher from Harbor Freight for $29.99 in Powerboat Magazine. That's a pretty good deal.

[tko232]

We have a HF store in Omaha and I paid $29.00 also.