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Butt Cheese
11-13-2008, 12:08 PM
By LakeExpo.com Staff
Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:24 AM CST


LAKE OF THE OZARKS, Mo. -- As winter approaches the sportsmen take over the water, especially the crappie hunters.

They work the docks and brush piles to pluck scores of good eatin' fish from cool waters. The fishermen do what has been done for generations, once for sustenance, now for sport and fine fried cuisine.

The vast majority of fishermen are considerate, short of the occasional lure flip into foam encapsulation or a mis-cast onto a dock. Usually a quick wrist jerk stealthily recovers miscues, but occasionally a lure's hook or barb proves troublesome. Caught on wood, cleat, rope, plastic, whatever, a hook can leave a fisherman in the cumbersome position of either stepping onto someone else's dock or cutting loose a $6 lure.

No self-respecting fisherman is going to leave a retrievable lure behind.

They troll up to the dock, look around and quickly leap to action, hoping to retrieve the lure from a dock before anyone notices and before their untied boat starts to float away.

Innocent enough. However, the fisherman just trespassed on private property. Most often the homeowner isn't around or doesn't care. No blood, no theft, no foul.

However, in these days of criminal activity, justified paranoia, lawsuits and cell phones, it's not unusual for the Water Patrol to be dispatched to check out a dock under pressure by fishermen.

A common call during the winter comes from homeowners observing crappie fishermen pulling into dock wells to jig. This is also considered trespassing. It is perfectly legal to come in close proximity of a dock and to cast into an empty well. However, it is not legal to pull a boat into a private dock well.

It is most often up to a Water Patrolman's discretion to issue fines or warnings in circumstances of dock trespassing. The vast majority of dock offenses go unnoticed and unreported, leaving most offenders to unknowingly continue unlawful practices. Unfortunately, ignorance of the law is likely a viable defense only once, especially when a patrolman has been forced to leave warm confines to respond.

The occasional infraction to retrieve a lure is certainly understandable and perhaps tolerable even to the most overprotective dock owner. However, the continued practice of pulling into private dock wells to fish is not only poor etiquette, it's likely to cost repeat offenders a lot more than a fish dinner.

midwest272
11-13-2008, 12:55 PM
I've been wondering about this, just about every fisherman that comes into the cove does a fish-around on my dock. Not just by but like if they could get under the cables they would.

I finally asked one guy and he said it was a shame that I had rebuilt this dock cause there were always fish under it when it was washed up on shore:roll:

So now if they hang around too long I send the dog down to keep them company.

Don't get me wrong I have no problem with fishermen (or anyone) in general but it's the one percent that have no respect for others property that get me.

tim
11-13-2008, 01:19 PM
I got angry one time when my kids are sitting on the dock fishing and some douchebag comes within 10 feet of the dock & was casting right where my kids had their lines. Jesus, there's another 70 miles of lake - go somewhere where little kids aren't trying to catch their share.

eichhoma
11-13-2008, 02:18 PM
I would much tather a fisherman come on my dock to get his lurre than leave it there for one of my kids to step on.... there are manners, and then just plain disrespect; like in Tim's case, that would really pi$$ me off too.

bradman
11-13-2008, 03:38 PM
Ive started a collection of lost lures and hope to fill my tackel box by spring :twisted:

Donzi Dude
11-13-2008, 03:51 PM
Usualy you can get rid of fishermen by just going down and talk to them, they aren't there to talk they want to fish, My son , we call him the speaker of the house can get rid of them pretty quick!:roller4:

weekender
11-13-2008, 03:53 PM
My neighbor had one stuck in his boat seat tore a nice size hole he said that he will shoot the next guy, and that is no joke he is a true resident Ozarker.

Titan912S
11-13-2008, 08:30 PM
I've got fishermen who lift up the cables and go inside, as well as put one foot on the dock and cast in the well. [smilie=011.gif] These are at both my neighbors' docks. Me, I'll heave a big rock from my deck into the water and scare all the fish away. They usually leave when they get that hint. [smilie=crazy]

sanpan25
11-13-2008, 08:52 PM
I have never had any problems, they have always been respectful, and courtious. A dead give away to fishermen is if you have pole holders on the dock, they always work that side the hardest.

lake_carl
11-13-2008, 09:33 PM
I always wanted to hook a motion detector to a sprinkler,

eichhoma
11-14-2008, 07:40 AM
I always wanted to hook a motion detector to a sprinkler,


Now that's funny! [smilie=appl]

I havent come across one that was rude yet, but then again never had my stuff damaged or anything either. I would certainly feel differently

Terri
11-14-2008, 10:14 AM
We used to send the kids to go hammer the nails on the deck that were coming up when fishermen got so close. Once, after they were basically tied up to the side of the dock, my hubby went down and asked if they wanted to come in for breakfast! We spend a lot of time and money making crappie beds around our dock and I think everyone knows about it. Our biggest gripe is our neighbor that fishes off of our dock (ON the dock) and then when we get there tells us how he caught 50-60 fish off of it! We have told him we would help him put beds around his dock, he says no - that's too much trouble I'll just use yours. What are you gonna do? Gotta keep nice with the neighbors. The sprinkler idea sounds pretty damn good.

Bajapit
11-14-2008, 05:16 PM
Whats Really bad is when the cast into your boat and SNAG your interior, or cover!

dwtinc
11-14-2008, 05:40 PM
I have meet more fishermen at the Eclipse.

Donzi Dude
11-14-2008, 06:50 PM
We used to send the kids to go hammer the nails on the deck that were coming up when fishermen got so close. Once, after they were basically tied up to the side of the dock, my hubby went down and asked if they wanted to come in for breakfast! We spend a lot of time and money making crappie beds around our dock and I think everyone knows about it. Our biggest gripe is our neighbor that fishes off of our dock (ON the dock) and then when we get there tells us how he caught 50-60 fish off of it! We have told him we would help him put beds around his dock, he says no - that's too much trouble I'll just use yours. What are you gonna do? Gotta keep nice with the neighbors. The sprinkler idea sounds pretty damn good.
Have the same problem with our neighbors

Splash Monkey
11-14-2008, 06:54 PM
I always wanted to hook a motion detector to a sprinkler,
Get yourself a Contech Scarecrow - we've got one for the garden and they work well, I've watched them scare off deer, rabbits, birds, cats, etc. Oh, don't forget to turn them off when you cut the grass! [smilie=crazy] :oops:
The video on this is pretty funny...
http://www.contech-inc.com/products/scarecrow/
http://www.critter-repellent.com/contech/scarecrow-sprinkler.php
http://www.amazon.com/Contech-Electronics-Scarecrow-Motion-Activated-CRO101/dp/B000071NUS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdYc86AA8M0

BDM
11-14-2008, 07:36 PM
That is ****ING awesome!!!

lake_carl
11-14-2008, 11:17 PM
yep another big dollar idea I thought of way too late, LOL